"You know, like a lot of things in my life, I've been very blessed to be in the right place at the right time."
Nash Redwine

#005 Nash Redwine

B. Reeves: [00:00:00] Did you do 90 meetings in 90

Nash Redwine: days? I did. So the, the 90 meetings in 90 days I did, I didn't really get the whole logic behind it, which is I didn't question it, which is good. I mean, I, I, I think that's important. I think that when you're in, when you're, when you're working on recovery, A big part of the surrender is setting aside your own ideas and your own education and your own mindset of what you think is good for you in listening to the professionals.

Nash Redwine: Mm-hmm. Listening to the people that you've entrusted your care and wellbeing to, to, and some. Sometimes that's just a blind faith. And a blind trust that you say, you know what, I'm not gonna question why they're asking me to do it. I'm just gonna do the work.

B. Reeves: Yes, good morning or good afternoon. My name is B Reeves. I am the Director of Admissions and Outreach at New Waters Recovery in Raleigh, North Carolina. And I'm sitting here [00:01:00] today with my friend and colleague, Ryan Gerald, who is our continuing care coordinator and really happy to have Nash Red Wine, who was our second client who, who came on our first day when our doors first opened October.

B. Reeves: Back in the fall. And we're very honored to have him here today. And so we just are gonna have kind of an open conversation about, you know, how we all ended up finding help what life has been like, you know, a short version of what it was like, what happened and what we're like now. And I will just, I'll start with Ryan and just sort of throw it over to him about kind of what he does.

B. Reeves: And then I'll talk for two seconds about what I do and then we'll talk to

Ryan Jarrell: Nash. Absolutely. And guys, it's great to sit with you this afternoon in Nash. I just wanna let you know like your. You're like a legend around here. Okay. People bring up Nash. True. And it's always just for like all the positive traits that we want in like a former client.

Ryan Jarrell: So I was like super excited to meet you, like when you came out cuz it's just, I saw Nash here. Nash is doing this, Nash is doing [00:02:00] this. Well

Nash Redwine: I hope I don't mess things up from here, so. Yeah, I know you got a lot

Ryan Jarrell: to live on too. Yeah. You know what I mean? You know that the pressure points, right? No follow up podcast guys.

Ryan Jarrell: You guys will know what that means, you know? Yeah. So I'm the continuing care coordinator here, and, and what that means is I work with clients and their families to iden identify the best treatment selection whether it has to do with financial general demographic, et cetera. And I kind of work on the logistical end to make sure it's as smooth a transfer as possible.

B. Reeves: Cool. And as director of Admissions and Outreach, my primary job is being the first, first call for when a family in crisis or an individual in crisis needs detox. Or sometimes they don't know what they need, but they call me and I just say, Hey, listen, no matter what, I'm gonna help you figure it out, whether or not we're a good fit.

B. Reeves: And I'm in a perfect world. We'll do a bunch of kind of paperwork on the front end, what's called a pre-admission. And then when I, and there are times when I'm also out on the road talking about our program and vetting out others in the process. But back to that pre-admission in a perfect world, we get a call and then when I talk to 'em for 30 or 45 [00:03:00] minutes, make sure that they're a good fit.

B. Reeves: But every now and then we have somebody who just shows up, and that was the case with Nash. One of my oldest friends I've known my entire life called me and said that he was on his way over and he had somebody with him who needed help and. Nash was our first walk-in our second client ever in our first walk-in.

B. Reeves: So you wanna talk

Nash Redwine: a little bit about that day and what that was like? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So that day was October the fifth of 2022. It was a Wednesday. And and I had no idea what I was doing. I had no idea where I was going, and I didn't really care. I was in such a a position of Of, of distress or weakness or you know, I don't even, I, I, I know I surrendered that day, but I, I wouldn't say that I felt like that I was in, in that mindset.

Nash Redwine: Other than I just kind of, it was, it was tough. And specifically I remember the ride over here because that guy that you were mentioning, he and my other business partner. We're at my house and we were just talking through opportunities or options and you know, the one guy said, Hey, you know, what do you think about [00:04:00] going to an AA meeting?

Nash Redwine: And I was like, absolutely not. And or, and I was like, I won't do that. I don't, I, I felt so horrible that I just, I couldn't con, I couldn't conceive going into a room of people who were trying to get well. And we, and we decided to take a chance on this facility cuz we had, we had heard about it, the, the, the opening or the pot, the pending opening, not knowing anything other than it existed.

Nash Redwine: And, and a little bit about what it may do. So on the way over here, my, my business partner had called and left a message. B called us back in the car. And while we're riding in the car, the guy that is being B is known forever. He's in the backseat and he says, B, this is such and such, and B's.

Nash Redwine: Like, oh my God, are you the one that's coming in here? And that guy said, no, no, it's not me. And I said and then I, when I spoke up and I said, no, B, my name is Nash. I'm the one that's coming. And we came in pretty hot and the [00:05:00] facility had just opened that day and probably only a, a few hours old.

Nash Redwine: Literally like three hours. Yeah. And, and you guys were not taking walk-ins basically as a, as a business model for all, for all the right reasons I'm sure. And and but you were kind of generous and could see that, that I was obviously in need and You know, like, like a lot of things in my life, I've been very blessed to be in the right place at the right time.

Nash Redwine: And I don't know how else to say it other than that. And this place was the right place at my wrong time. And be told me when I got here. He said, I know this is gonna sound hard to believe or imagine, but this, this is gonna be the worst day of your life and the best day of your life, maybe at the same time.

Nash Redwine: And. And certainly I know that now I'm grateful to have found my way here and, and, and gotten the start that I got in, in the program of recovery that I'm in today and on the journey that I'm on today. So grateful to be here. I'm grateful to be able to give back and offer [00:06:00] any kind of experience or advice or whatever for anybody else that's out there that may end up watching this someday.

Nash Redwine: So thank you for inviting me. Thank you for having me. And and, and thank you for what you guys do. I know it's a, it's a tough, it's a tough way to make a living. So that's it for now and we'll, we'll keep on talking. How you Yeah,

B. Reeves: man. Well, thank you so much for being here and kind of wanted to throw it over to you just.

B. Reeves: But when he was talking, it made me think about something that I haven't thought of as much lately. And I used to talk to families about this a lot, and I feel like we all have a finite number of windows of opportunity just to begin our recovery. And you know, sounds like in your case, you know, you were at kind of a, a, a bottom and in, and in that moment you found yourself, you know, at our, at our.

B. Reeves: You know, my case was a little different, but the same as, you know, I found myself into a treatment center too when I was at a bottom. And I don't, I don't want to find out cause I know people who have had several opportunities and to get better and stay better. [00:07:00] And some people who have not made it to find that other opportunity or even had.

B. Reeves: One window of opportunity and just kind of from what you see, not only in your, your work life but in your recovery life outside of work, like kind of touch on that, you know, these windows of opportunity and being in the right place at the right time in order to begin one's recovery.

Ryan Jarrell: Absolutely, and I mean I think Nash, you really hit on like.

Ryan Jarrell: What is so essential, like recovery cannot begin until a person is ready to seek an answer. Right? And my experience in like personal recovery was I had all the answers. Like I knew exactly what I needed to do at any given point in time. Like I knew I just needed to get a little bit more money. People needed to get off my back, other people needed to treat me this, that, or the other way.

Ryan Jarrell: And. When these external life circumstances like kind of lined up, I would be okay. And I believe that my internal disarray was due to the fact that externally things weren't working out the way that I wanted to. And you know, I think when we get in recovery in nash, I think the moment that you spoke about when you wrote in is when you realize, [00:08:00] no, I have to work up on my internal self.

Ryan Jarrell: And the external self is is gonna be what it's gonna be. That's the ultimate state of surrender that people have identified as a key moment in recovery for 90 plus years. You know? The issue with that is the number of fears that kind of swim around and, and well around in you as you engage in that, in that feeling of surrender.

Ryan Jarrell: I definitely personally, like I went to detox, they gave me a bunch of suggestions. I took none of them. And surprise, surprise, guess what happened? 20, literally 20 minutes from when I discharged from the facility I'm getting messed up again. And you know, it was that moment of the second, third, fourth day I'm, Stack of Bibles, polygraph tests I will never use again.

Ryan Jarrell: Come seven days and 20 minutes later when I'm left to my own devices. And we all know, you know, kind of what went on. And then that was months more of chaos. So I had personally, like I had, I had a lot of doors open and, and a lot of doors closed. The blessing in my life was that, You know, when I wasn't doing the right thing, my family and friends, they really weren't there for me.

Ryan Jarrell: Like, understandably so. There was nothing wrong with [00:09:00] that. But when I was ready to get help, they were there ready to pick me up. And Nash it sounds like that was your experience as well. Is that

Nash Redwine: correct? Yeah, absolutely. And, and and they were there, they were available. And I was, and I was honest. I mean, I, I.

Nash Redwine: I mean, it really started with a phone call that morning when I was talking to my business partner. He wanted to get together at the office and go through some stuff, and I just said, look, man, I can't, I can't do it. I said, if you wanna come here to my house and talk, you know, I'd be glad to talk to you. I said, you know, he said, but I'm not, I'm, I'm not doing well.

Nash Redwine: And he said, well, what's going on? And I said, man, I can't quit drinking. And I didn't have, I mean, the thing about it is, is that day I could have said, look, just leave me alone. I could have said, I need some space, I need some time. I need whatever I. And I just, I needed to be honest at that moment, and I was, and, and, and he was already probably aware that things were not right.

Nash Redwine: And and luckily enough, I, I had him and some other people in my life that were [00:10:00] paying attention and, and that were present and available for when I was ready to have an honest conversation about the frailty of the position I was in. They were there and, and ready to, to, to, to lend a.

B. Reeves: Love it. Yeah.

B. Reeves: Just since you're here, it made me think too, you know, this is you know, we are a seven day detox and when you came we were, I think only five Yeah. Was our minimum then. Yeah. So, but, but you know, the very, very tip of the iceberg. And then you went on to residential treatment for 45 days. 42, yeah.

B. Reeves: 42 days. And Ryan's main job is to get people like you to continue their treatment, which is, can prove difficult. But then, but then even then, that's still training wheels at some point. And it's different for everybody, whether we go to just detox or, you know, treatment for a year. At some point the training wheels are off, right?

B. Reeves: And it's time to, you know, do this on our own with the help of sponsorship and, and, you know, a recovery community. But in terms of being kind of told what to do every day by a treatment center. [00:11:00] And so kind of tell us what you're doing on a daily basis to you know, just to stay sober

Nash Redwine: and. Yeah. So I, I, I'll just, I'll just hit very quickly kind of on my, my journey through new waters and then into treatment and what it's been like since then, if that's okay.

Nash Redwine: Yeah, please. So came in here, like I said, on a Wednesday, October the fifth. And really didn't know what I was doing, didn't know what I was getting into, but I was just ready for help. Whatever that help was gladly handed over my telephone, the keys to my vehicle and my, my wallet, and I said, take it, take it all.

Nash Redwine: I'm, I'm blessed with a, a wonderful one, loving wife and, and, and children, and I've just kind of, I shut the door on them and everything else, and I was comfortable walking away from the world for a while while I just focused. Own me. And you guys were so good that by Saturday, a few days later, I was convinced that I was well enough that I was gonna be mm-hmm.

Nash Redwine: Released from here and sent on a, you know, sent on home to start going to some type of, you [00:12:00] know, outpatient type program in the community, if that was this or that, or whatever it was. And I thought, wow, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm already doing so much better three or four days into this thing. I'm so clear and, and, and clearheaded and, and feeling good that that's what they're gonna do.

Nash Redwine: But thanks to this program and the people here at the time, they made a very strong suggestion along with the guidance of my family members that I needed more treatment. So I went to another facility that's in Western North Carolina and spent it's a six week program there and spent six weeks there.

Nash Redwine: And that was invaluable as well. I, I know that I would not have done as well there accepting the curriculum accepting the help and treatment there if I didn't have my start here at New Waters. And I think that's, that's big because I think when you're, when you're in a, in a, in a difficult situation, like I.

Nash Redwine: You need some [00:13:00] time to just decompress and get well, physically and mentally before you start trying to work on greater physical and mental challenges. Mm-hmm. Of, you know, learning, you know, learning this, the stuff you need to learn in recovery. You know it's, it's, it's kind of heavy material in the fact that it's very.

Nash Redwine: Introspective or self-oriented, and it's not an easy topic to, to work through and it's not an easy time to work through that stuff. So coming into a treatment facility, for me that was inpatient with a clear head and a good start like I got from here was, was huge. And my willingness and my honesty there to work on myself and to be present with the people that were in the program there, I know was important and and helpful.

Nash Redwine: I got outta that facility on Sunday, November the 20th, and that was a Sunday before Thanksgiving. Hmm. I could have stayed there longer. I could have done some deeper diving there. And I think that, that they [00:14:00] have a great program to do that type of work and I suggest that people, if they have the time and the financial resources to do it, to continue to fall through there for me.

Nash Redwine: I was frankly ready to get home. It was gonna be Thanksgiving that week. I felt strong enough in my foundation of my recovery to feel good about leaving there. I felt like coming back to Raleigh where I live in a community where I've got a lot of family and a lot of friends, and I've got a lot of friends in recovery that have been recovered for, for a long, long time.

Nash Redwine: I felt like I was coming back to an environment where I had a really great opportunity to continue the work that was there. So I, I, I, that's why I felt okay leaving after six weeks. And I think that's a lot of time to get, and I, and I knew I was not, I knew I was, no. And so I also knew and was firmly committed to the fact that I was not finished with my recovery and I was just, we we at, at the treatment facility I was in, we.

Nash Redwine: We [00:15:00] called it a running start. Mm-hmm. Right? Mm-hmm. And you knew you were just getting, you were hitting a lot of different topics and you were only getting to, you know, barely to the surface level and you were not do, doing the deep dive that you need to do to figure out why you're doing what you're doing.

Nash Redwine: Mm-hmm. So since I've been out I've been going to meetings with you know, Groups that are in my community to work on work on my program of recovery. I do that every day. I see a therapist probably once a week on, on, on on a regular basis. Did you do 90 meetings, 90 days? I did. So the, the 90 meetings in 90 days I did, I didn't really.

Nash Redwine: Get the whole logic behind it, which is, I didn't question it, which is good. I mean, I, I think that's important. I think that when you're in, when you're, when you're working in recovery, a big part of the surrender is. [00:16:00] Setting aside your own ideas and your own education and your own mindset of what you think is good for you in listening to the professionals.

Nash Redwine: Mm-hmm. Listening to the people that you've entrusted your care and wellbeing to. Just to, and some, sometimes that's just a blind faith and a blind trust that you say, you know what, I'm not gonna question why they're asking me to do it. I'm just gonna do the work. Mm-hmm. And so I did the 90 and 90 as I was suggest.

Nash Redwine: And, and, and, and in going through that commitment you, you understand pretty quickly the logic and the genius of, of doing that work. And, you know, and, and I did more than that. If it's one meeting a day and for 90 days, it's not three meetings a day, then skip the next couple of days. Mm-hmm. It's 90 meetings, you know, it's a meeting a day for 90 days is kind of a, a minimum.

Nash Redwine: And I, and I, I went beyond that. There was, you know, there was. There's one day when I did I think one therapist appointment in three meetings in a given day, so you can kind of get [00:17:00] wrapped up in it and I don't know how you do too much of it, but you know, I certainly gave it a shot. I So the surrender that got me to, to new waters and then I had to surrender again when I left new Waters with the advice that I'd go somewhere else.

Nash Redwine: It was a really hard pill for me to swallow. When I thought on that, on that Saturday that I thought that I was getting a pat on the back and you know, Hey, you're doing great. Get back in the community. That was a hard, that was a really hard thing for me to have to accept because at that point I was already feeling better.

Nash Redwine: Right. And I was starting to exercise that old good self will and that self, that self-knowledge of, Hey, I'm, I, I think I've got a handle on this thing.

B. Reeves: Yeah. That's something I wanted to touch on and talk to you about too. Mm-hmm. Is that, We see this a lot. You know, you, I I, I actually kind of forgot that you, like, I have this memory of you that you were like, oh yeah, anything, but you did, you put up a little bit of a vibe.

Nash Redwine: I, I, and then when I, I, I said, Hey, now wait a minute. Yeah, let's talk about this a little bit. And then, and then it really took me about 24 hours of, of, of reflection. [00:18:00] And I said, you know what? I, I'm not ready. Yeah. I'm, I'm nowhere near ready. And so, You were willing? I was, I was willing. I wasn't as willing as when I first came in here, but that's, that's the, that's the beauty of surrender.

Nash Redwine: That's the beauty of surrender. When I got here, the, the beauty of surrender while I was here and the beauty of surrender once again, when I got to that facility where it was like another, just another aha moment or another, wow. This is really happen. Yeah. You know, it's, it's surreal what you're going through.

Nash Redwine: It's heavy stuff, you know, and you're, and you're, you're willingly saying to yourself and to the people around you, yes, I'll do this. I'll go away from my family and my loved ones. I'll surrender my freedom for a new freedom. Mm-hmm.

B. Reeves: Exactly. And also the thing about, you know, when you're talking about feeling better, I know, I, I talk to families about this all the time, especially when they, when they come to detox.

B. Reeves: And then they're [00:19:00] on fire like you were. Mm-hmm. And then, then when it comes time for Ryan to find that place for 'em to go, then they look better. They sound better. They feel better. You know? And especially if the families are new to this, you know, they see their, their loved one and that loved one speaking a new language.

B. Reeves: And it, it is a lot better than they were seven days ago, but nowhere near ready for the, for the real world again. And so there's this false sense of confidence that comes. From de from detox only sometimes where people get so much better than they were really fast. And then they go back out there in the world when they don't take suggestions and it doesn't usually end well.

B. Reeves: Is that absolutely. Your

Ryan Jarrell: experience with that? Yeah, absolutely. So we, you know, I think one of the, the misapprehensions surrounding like substance use disorder right, is it's something that just exists in the body. We're a medical detox and what we do is we treat a a physical dependence upon the substance of choice, whether it be alcohol or other.

Ryan Jarrell: However, what I reflect to families [00:20:00] constantly is they, they need to look back and, and see, okay, there was a physical addiction to a substance. How did that come about? Why did your mental coping skills lead you to the substance to such a, such a degree that your body is now physically addicted to it?

Ryan Jarrell: Because we can. We can put you right, like you were before you started drinking again. But if, if we don't address the DR the issues that caused you to drink in the first place, you're gonna be right back at it. And we've unfortunately and tragically seen that play out time and time again where we have clients that they are feeling better.

Ryan Jarrell: They're doing better. They don't think they need this next level of suggestion because the physical dependence is removed. They're in a controlled situation. They, I think when people tell me they honestly can't imagine drinking, I mean, I did the same thing. I don't think these people are lying to me at all.

Ryan Jarrell: I think they, what they are doing is underestimating the, the. The strength of addiction and disease and the way that it can twist our perception and our thinking. And that, and that's a, that's a really hard thing to attempt to interrupt, you know? It's a really hard thing for families and it's a really hard thing for individuals.

Ryan Jarrell: They [00:21:00] have to trust some people, me be, and some other people who they met 48 hours ago and they have no idea. You know what I mean? Reasonably, what our motivations are. So to have that level of trust and have that level of surrender Nash, you know, it's not, it's just such a. To be able to have that and, and, and roll with that resistance and just say, I, I'm just gonna take, take these people.

Ryan Jarrell: I'm gonna see them as genuine, and I, and I'm gonna take their suggestions. Nash. You know, I think hopefully there are people listening to this who they're right about to engage in the recovery journey, or there are family members that are about to engage in the recovery journey and they're just right on that edge.

Ryan Jarrell: And like I've been on that knife's edge. You've been on that knife's edge, B's been on this knife's edge, and I was wondering if you could give any advice or suggestions to people who are maybe thinking about engaging in a detox or rehabilitation process. But they don't know what to expect

Nash Redwine: next. Yeah.

Nash Redwine: So you know, It's funny, I, when I, when I was in my active addiction and drinking really heavily, I would spend a lot of [00:22:00] time trying to figure out what the cures for hangovers were, right? Mm-hmm. You know, I would, I would Google this and I would read that and I, and I'd spend a lot of time, right? I would do some research.

Nash Redwine: I would do some research and development trying to figure out what, what, what I, what could I do differently? How can I prep this thing the night before so I don't feel like utter garbage tomorrow? And I think that the, the answer is really clear. You just don't drink right? And that's the only way to avoid a hangover.

Nash Redwine: I think that what, what people need to be aware of is how dangerous it is to detox off of alcohol and or a lot of other drugs. And it's, it. It's dangerous, obviously in a physical sense. It's very, it is very difficult, I think emotionally and mentally. You know, your body has become chemical chemically dependent on this stuff and I, I don't know.

Nash Redwine: I don't know how you can do it any more safely than you guys do it in your environment or in other environments as well. I think it's imperative to [00:23:00] have the best care you can get. To get the best start you can get to, to, to work your way towards recovery. Because if you, if you start with the best opportunity and the best effort, then I think it can go well.

Nash Redwine: If it, if it, if it doesn't go well from the beginning and, and if people, people are jaded by the process or the people they're working with, then I, I, you know, then I think you, then you've probably got an even bigger. You know I don't, there's, there's, I spend a lot of money. To get well. Mm-hmm. And I would gladly spend it again if I had to, to double down on the investment.

Nash Redwine: And that's what I see. I think people see it as an expense. Mm-hmm. Which is a mistake. Mm-hmm. I see the cost that's associated with it. I see the time that's associated with it as nothing short as an a a as short of an investment. Mm-hmm. It's an investment in you and where else would you wanna spend your money then in yourself?

Nash Redwine: You know, and for me, it. [00:24:00] Going to treatment and realizing that I had given up on me a long time ago. Mm. I stopped reading things that, that challenged me. I stopped learning. I stopped growing and I, I got lost in spiritual growth and in, and educational or mental growth. And I think we do that as human beings.

Nash Redwine: I think we, you know, we grow up as children being forced to go to school and we are like, These awful educators who are making us get educated and making us be smarter. Mm-hmm. And making us learn how, oh, how about these people that are teaching us how to, you know, get through life and navigate things through life.

Nash Redwine: You know, it's, it's really, it's confounding. And when you get in that, that, and when you get into a position where you're like, I'm, I'm, I'm a fool. I've, I've been, I've been trying to, I've been trying to kill myself for. And I've been, I've been blocking out life. And and you start to, you start to see those things when you start to recover.

Nash Redwine: I [00:25:00] did anyways, and I start to see, I start to see some of the light and, and getting through that, that darkness and that dark period and I just gotta see, start to see some of the promise of. Living my life in a new direction with a, with a better perspective and a, and a, and a greater sense of, of what it means to be happy, joyous, and free.

Nash Redwine: And man, there's a lot of work to be done. Mm-hmm. I got a lot of work to be done. I mean, you know, I think if you, I, I think for people that see people coming from a detox facility, whether it be new orders or another place, and thinking that that their loved ones. Are cured. There could not be anything more dangerous than that.

Nash Redwine: They're not. You're not. I was not. Mm-hmm. The worst thing that could have ever happened to me would've been to have been put back in the general population before I had an opportunity to really experience that next level of challenge and growth in in, in [00:26:00] moving towards. You know, it's, it's introspection.

Nash Redwine: Mm-hmm. Right? You gotta just, you gotta focus on you and figure out where you went wrong and, and what you need to do to find some, some serenity, some peace, some, some really, some, some, some focus on life and what you want to do. So good Lord willing. Next week will be six months for me without a drink or a drug.

Nash Redwine: I've not had, I mean, I may, may, maybe since I've came into here, I've maybe I've had some cough syrup or something when I had a really horrible cold or sinus infection. I've not taken any Advil or Tylenol for any kind of pain or anything like that. I sleep in incredibly well. Mm-hmm. I was asked on the way in here if I've been exercising a lot and by a guy that that works here, and I said, no, I haven't, because the group I exercise with in the mornings it's just too early.

Nash Redwine: I sleep too. Well. I'm, I mean, I'm having too much. I, I, I, life is good in getting better. Mm. And and [00:27:00] I'm not, I'm not interested in what a drink or a drug would do. It can't make, it can't make what I got better. Mm-hmm. I'm convinced of that. But I also know that it's just a daily reprieve every, every day.

Nash Redwine: And, and I've just got an opportunity every day to work on me a little bit more and, and just and try and give back a little bit of what I'm here, you know, if I haven't said it already, but I'm, I'm here just to maybe make it that much easier for somebody else to find their way into. And, and that's really what this program and all programs are about in recovery is, is just, you know, letting people know that there is, there is, it, it's a challenging way.

Nash Redwine: It's not easy, but it's, it's the more meaningful way to get through life. So I, I, I, I'm around people now on the other side and now that I'm in recovery, it. Hey, here's our friend Nash. You know, he doesn't drink and I'm, I'm the weird one, right? Hmm. I'm not normal cuz I don't drink. [00:28:00] And I'm, and I'm like, when did it ever get, when, when did, when did drinking become the normal way to get through life?

Nash Redwine: Mm-hmm. You know, when did drugs become the normal way to get, I mean, why has that gotta be that way? Mm-hmm. It's bizarre. But that's the world we live in and you can't change that part of it until, you've gotta shift some people's mindsets that this is the better way, this is the right way to live. It's where I am and it's where I'm staying and I, I appreciate the opportunity to be here.

Nash Redwine: It's, you know, when I was in treatment and getting outta treatment in that facility I was in, and I know that, I know that I had a full appreciation or a fuller real appreciation for what people in recovery have to do. They gotta go to work every day and bust their butts, trying to save people's lives, knowing that a lot of people don't make it, and that's not.

Nash Redwine: And

Nash Redwine: it's sad. But you know, it's My sister works in a field that's very difficult where she's, [00:29:00] she's in child advocacy, right? Mm-hmm. So she's constantly in, in a, in a world of things that are tough for people. So I'm aware of people who have crappy jobs trying to help other people out and how difficult it is.

Nash Redwine: So anything that I can do to give back, I'm all on board. So thanks for your time. Thank you, Nash.

B. Reeves: Thank you B. Thank you,

Ryan Jarrell: Ryan. Thank you everybody.

Join us in episode 5 of our podcast as we sit down with Nash Redwine, a former client who went through a life-changing journey at New Waters Recovery in Raleigh, North Carolina. Our host B. Reeves, the Director of Admissions and Outreach, and Ryan Jarrell, the Continuing Care Coordinator, discuss Nash's story of surrender, recovery, and the impact of the 90 meetings in 90 days program. Discover the importance of setting aside your own ideas and trusting professionals during the recovery process. Listen in as Nash reflects on his experience and the events that led him to New Waters Recovery, from a desperate moment to finding hope, strength, and inspiration. Don't miss this powerful and candid conversation about overcoming addiction and embracing a new life.

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